Dominic Cummings reveals his only regular media contact was BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg
Dominic Cummings reveals his only regular media contact was BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg who he spoke to ‘every three to four weeks’ to ‘give guidance on big stories’
- Dominic Cummings said he would talk to BBC’s political editor Laura Kuenssberg
- But stressed he would only speak to her every ‘3 or 4 weeks’ to ‘give guidance’
- Said PM was ‘a thousand times far too obsessed with the media, which undermines him doing his job’
Dominic Cummings revealed his only regular media contact was the BBC‘s Laura Kuenssberg because of the broadcaster’s ‘special position’ in the country.
He took on the handling of the press throughout 2020 himself because Boris Johnson – his then-boss – was ‘a thousand times far too obsessed with the media, which undermines him doing his job’.
Today, Mr Cummings gave an extraordinary account of the Government’s catastrophic response to Covid-19 – revealing that Mr Johnson viewed it as a ‘scare story’ just a month before the first lockdown.
He also described the dramatic moment when a top civil servant admitted: ‘We are absolutely f*****.’
The maverick former No10 chief said the government – and he personally – ‘fell disastrously short’ in its response to coronavirus during a titanic hearing with MPs on coronavirus.


Dominic Cummings revealed his only regular media contact was the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg because of the broadcaster’s ‘special position’ in the country

The maverick former No10 chief said the BBC’s political editor (pictured leaving No. 10 in 2019) was the ‘main’ journalist he would speak to – but stressed they would talk once every ‘three or four weeks’ to ‘give guidance on big stories’
Giving evidence to the Commons health and science committees, the former-adviser said he ‘could give guidance’ to Ms Kuenssberg at the BBC on major stories about the Government’s pandemic handling.
He said the BBC was his outlet of choice due to its ‘special position in the country’, especially ‘during a crisis’.
He said: ‘I was working roughly 100 hour weeks. At that time for less than an hour a week, much less than one percent was spent talking to the media.
‘I did occasionally talk to people, the main person I spoke to in the whole of 2020 was Laura Kuenssberg at the BBC.
‘Because the BBC has a special position in the country, obviously during a crisis.
‘Because I was in the room for certain crucial things, I could give guidance to her for certain big stories.’
He added: ‘I spoke to her on average maybe once every three or four weeks through the course of the year.
‘I actually spoke to the media close to zero in 2020.
‘I did talk to people unauthorised in the sense of pretty rarely did I speak to the Prime Minister about it before I spoke to any journalists. I just got on with it.’
He claimed his lack of contact ‘drove the media mad’ because no-one in his position had done that in ‘decades’.
Also in his four-hour evidence given today, Mr Cummings conceded he should have been ‘hitting the panic button’ in mid-February but he had been ‘wrongly reassured’ by messages from the WHO and others about the situation in China.
The government was certainly not on a ‘war footing’ at the time, with senior figures including Mr Johnson himself going on holiday.
‘Lots of key people were literally skiing in mid-February,’ he said.
He said Mr Johnson regarded the pandemic as a ‘scare story’ and the ‘new Swine Flu’ at that stage, and had even suggested he could be injected with the disease live on TV by medical chief Chris Whitty to show people it was not a threat.
In a detailed timeline, Mr Cummings said that on March 12 at 7.48am he texted the PM and said the Cabinet Office was ‘terrifyingly sh**’ and Covid restrictions should be stepped up immediately.
However, on the same day Donald Trump was trying to persuade the UK to join a bombing raid in the Middle East.
And Carrie Symonds was ‘going crackers’ at the PM over a ‘trivial’ story in the papers about their dog Dilyn.
Mr Cummings said on the evening of March 13 the second most senior civil servant at the Cabinet Office, Helen MacNamara, came in and relayed to him the view of another senior official that ‘there is no plan’ and ‘we’re in huge trouble’.
Mr Cummings said she told him: ‘I think we are absolutely f*****’ and warned that ‘thousands’ of people could die.
Despite the rising alarm, at around the same time there were still meetings going on with officials suggesting people should be advised to have ‘chicken pox parties’ to spread the virus more quickly.
Mr Johnson tried to shrug off the vicious onslaught at a bruising PMQs this afternoon, denying the government was ‘complacent’.
‘None of the decisions have been easy,’ the premier said. ‘To go into a lockdown is a traumatic thing for a county. We have at every stage tried to minimise loss of life.’
But the committee heard hours of damaging allegations, including that even in the first half of March Mr Johnson was still of the view that the threat to the economy was more significant than the public health risk.
Mr Cummings said the scenes were reminiscent of disaster movie Independence Day, where star Jeff Goldblum says the plan to resist the alien invasion has failed and there needs to be a new one.
The former aide also launched an excoriating attack on Matt Hancock, accusing him of ‘lying’ about PPE and access for treatment for those suffering from the disease.
He insisted the Health Secretary told ministers ‘categorically’ in March that people would be tested for Covid before being returned to care homes, but it later transpired that it not happened.
‘We sent people with Covid back to the care homes,’ he said.
He claimed that the then-Cabinet Secretary Mark Sedwill told him he had ‘lost confidence’ in Mr Hancock’s ‘honesty’ during key meetings.
Mr Cummings said he went to Mr Johnson in July last year and said that he was going to leave because Downing Street was in ‘chaos’.
He said he told the PM that he was ‘not prepared to work with people like Hancock any more’, accusing Mr Johnson of being ‘frightened’ to give him enough power to set up a functional system.
The former Vote Leave chief said Mr Johnson retorted that ‘chaos isn’t that bad’ because it ‘means everyone has to look to me to see who is in charge’.
Mr Cummings revealed that neither he nor Mr Johnson attended Cobra meetings in the early stages, and he did not advise the PM to do so.
He said the sessions were often just ‘powerpoint presentations’ and ‘not massively useful’ and there were many leaks.
‘In February the Prime Minister regarded this as just a scare story, he described it as the new swine flu,’ Mr Cummings said.

Dominic Cummings apologised for his own role as he started a marathon four hours of evidence to a joint session of the Commons health and science committees

Mr Cummings teed up his evidence by tweeting this chart of the government’s Plan B this morning

Mr Cummings tweeted a picture of the whiteboard before his explosive grilling from MPs over how Downing St handled the pandemic. He captioned the image: ‘First sketch of Plan B, PM study, Fri 13/3 eve – shown PM Sat 14/4: NB. Plan A ‘our plan’ breaks NHS,>4k p/day dead min.Plan B: lockdown, suppress, crash programs (tests/treatments/vaccines etc), escape 1st AND 2nd wave (squiggly line instead of 1 or 2 peaks)… details later’
When asked if he had told the PM it was not, Mr Cummings added: ‘Certainly, but the view of various officials inside Number 10 was if we have the Prime Minister chairing Cobra meetings and he just tells everyone ”it’s swine flu, don’t worry about it, I’m going to get Chris Whitty to inject me live on TV with coronavirus so everyone realises it’s nothing to be frightened of”, that would not help actually serious panic.’
In a damning assessment, Mr Cummings said: ‘The truth is that senior ministers, senior officials, senior advisers like me fell disastrously short of the standards that the public has a right to expect of its Government in a crisis like this.
‘When the public needed us most the Government failed.


A masked Dominic Cummings arrived at Parliament this morning (left) as he prepared to rain fire on Boris Johnson (pictured right at PMQs today)
‘I would like to say to all the families of those who died unnecessarily how sorry I am for the mistakes that were made and for my own mistakes at that.’
Mr Cummings accused Matt Hancock and other officials of briefing at the time that the strategy was to reach ‘herd immunity’, which was seen as an ‘unavoidable fact’.
He insisted it is ‘completely wrong’ that the government is now denying it was their aim.
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